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MOD ONLY TO POST IN THIS POST PLEASE Attending Details (Handle, Name, Car, tent size) Thursday NO OVERNIGHT CAMPING or PARKING ON THURSDAY Friday GreyDJ2, John Waddell, CDi, day only no tent Newbody Jason and family, hopefully a cav hatch modded, large 6 man tent Andy Steel and someone mk2 Sri hatch large 3 man tent Vauxal Alan Fairweather cavalier calibre Astra gte 4 man tent Friday /Saturday mikmac40, Mike, Calibre and 1 X 3 man tent. Garf & Nikki Hollis 86 Cavalier hatchback, 2 x small tent Blitz Rich, plus better half. Silvia Saturday GreyDJ2, John Waddell, CDi, day only no tent, going early as DJing in evening Newbody Jason and family, hopefully a cav hatch modded, large 6 man tent Andy Steel and someone mk2 Sri hatch large 3 man tent Vauxal Alan Fairweather cavalier calibre Astra gte 4 man tent Friday /Saturday mikmac40, Mike Calibre and 1 X 3 man tent. Garf & Nikki Hollis 86 Cavalier hatchback, 2 x small tent Robert Hutcheson, Manta, no tent Blitz Andy Rich, plus better half. Silvia Daz (late on) Energy, Robert Macdonald, Blue cavalier hatch E947MSG Sunday GreyDJ2, John Waddell, CDi, day only no tent Newbody Jason and family, hopefully a cav hatch modded, large 6 man tent Andy Steel and someone mk2 Sri hatch large 3 man tent Rabbit John Sri 130 estate (still for sale) HiluxV8, Ian Rose, Mk2 LX hatch, no tent Garf & Nikki Hollis 86 Cavalier hatchback, 2 x small tent Robert Hutcheson, Manta, no tent Maca73, David McDougall, cavalier mk2 v6 ,Sunday Blitz Rich, plus better half. Silvia retrotony87, TMK, No tent L13 - Mitch - Cavalier 1.8 Cabrio Daz Neil and family mk2 lxi sunday, no tent. Energy, Robert Macdonald, Blue cavalier hatch E947MSG

This is the gathering information on who is coming thread. As in previous years please do not amend the initial master summary post. Please add your own post with the information requested and a Mod will add it to the master list before deleting it. Again, do not put chat here as it will be deleted. Put it in the chat thread. VBOA want to know 1. How many vehicles on the stand per day. We want to know how many are Mk2 Cavaliers and how many are others, Vauxhall or not. 2. How many tents and their approx size e.g. 2, 3 , 4 person etc 3. Any caravans/motorhomes/trailers if any, as space may be limited. So, when you say you are coming please state - name (handle and real), what car, which day(s) - if overnight your tent size, motorhome Thanks

EjBj, please don't start random threads on the VBOA show. Please post on the existing thread(s). In answer to your question and contradicting Chris this Club, along with some others, has a policy that, if you are a paid up member, you are entitled to bring any car, not just a MK2. We have enough space so all we do is put the non MK2s and associated tents etc in a different part of our area. We try to be above all else a sociable bunch with a common interest in the MK2, sometimes now past sometimes future, without being hung up on it. So yes, come along and pick a few brains, buy/collect a few bits and put faces to names. You will be made to feel welcome.

EjBj posted the following (which got deleted in error by me) "What’s the score on the stand with bringing a non cavalier this year as mine if far from ready!" Followed by Chris M "Ive been a few times not in a cav, you just park off the stand, usually by the camping bit. Might be the same this year unless I'm very lucky. " My reply in next post

This is the thread for all non booking related posts e.g. discussion etc

Moved to this thread

You would be very welcome in your daily.

UPDATE - If the weather holds this could be one of the best shows It is clear that VBOA has changed, the old guard has now gone and the new, younger, team is taking it by the scruff of the neck and shaking it, hard. Gone is the day when we subcontract the Annual Show to an outside organiser, it is now in-house and boy, is it changing. Sywell, it is now clear, is a proven and well organised site for self managed shows. So relax, the basic show with all our pitches is still there, no changes as to how we organise or what we put on our stand for example, apart perhaps from a slightly reduced area from last year but that won't be a problem. B-B-Q OK if off the ground and dogs allowed but must not be let loose and no drones as the airfield is operating. Also a limited number of electric power pitches in a different area for £15 a night. VBOA will have a site map out within a few weeks. The usual car parades and best in show competitions will be there. The autojumble is back running through the middle of the stand area not the edge, with a hugely reduced cost to traders which should see lots more of them. We could have a Club stand if any of us want to get together and sell parts there at a knockdown £15 for a 4m x 4m pitch. All the food stands, probably plus a few new ones, plus a huge bar/live music venue indoors in a hanger (bands on Friday and Saturday evenings), onsite cafe and restaurant (part of the hotel) plus a couple of food pubs within walking distance, are there. There are toilets/rubbish points spread around plus central showers and 'luxury toilets' sited centrally. Now for the new stuff! Motorsport - a professionally organised and operated short circuit (around 700 yards) on a taxiway with one car on at a time, untimed (by them), for £25 a time. They will have 'real' cars there to show how its done with passenger rides at £15 to £20. Children's (under 16) activity zone - with climbing wall, football darts, bouncy castle, gladiators, suomo suits etc for £5 a day with Friday afternoon free on a £10 weekend wrist band, pay in advance or on the day. Interclub Challenge - As many Clubs as want to put up an adult/child team in a 'Its a knockout' type competition in the main arena. Current Mk2Cav Members pricing is the weekend ticket (Fri/Sat/Sun) is £45 until 30th April, then £50 till the 21st June when online booking ends. The ticket can be purchased on the door for £55, cards accepted! Day entry is £9 till 21st June then £10 on the door, not £15 like last year. Don't forget you have to be paid up to be on our stand. Historical data on ticket sales is not available to us but this year's are on budget. This show has an interesting set of ingredients taking it well beyond the shows at Billing. It should definitely be worth a visit this year. From now on all the profits are going to be reinvested back into VBOA related activities which is good for all of us on the Vauxhall community. Get booking

Welcome to the site. Your standard of English looks pretty good, similar to some of us here already

Another update We have received the following questions, please see answers below. please share this info with your club members One Club member has asked is there a telephone booking option as not every club member is on the internet or may not be happy making purchases on the internet? unfortunately not, as with most things this day and age, it is all operated without the intervention of people. you can however, pay on the gate or I'm sure clubs would be in a position to accommodate the odd one or two members One Club Member would like to know what happens if they take 2 cars,1 motor home and a tent? if it is a case of mum and dad in the camper and 2 kids in a small tent with a show car then this would be the £10 extra car charge. if its 4 mates then it would require 2 tickets. we have a trusting policy and would expect our members to comply, anyone trying it on will be refused entry or charged the extra at the gate. Another wants to know If you come on the Friday for three days camping do you have to pay 3 days for an extra car? no, the extra car charge is just one day Are dogs allowed? yes, same rules as elsewhere, dogs are allowed but must be kept under control

Bit of an update this morning from VBOA. As before, we will only let our paid up members on the stand. Thank you to all who have passed the information around to their clubs, such that ticket purchasing has started. From that we have had some feedback, and we have some to pass to you too. Firstly there has been some concerns over how club affiliated attendance is "policed". This will be carried out in more or less the same way it has always been. Its an honesty based system where the person states they are from XYZ club and when they arrive they a) go to that club and b) are supposed to be there. We the VBOA do not verify club membership for purchase/entry based on what the ticket purchaser selects. Secondly, some people have asked or rather were discouraged when it came to booking the tickets as it was understood that Ticketease requires a Facebook account to login and buy. This is not the case. It would appear that they would like you to login with your Facebook account BUT this is not required, there is the alternative method to login (as normal for many, with an email address etc).

Booking opened today. There are early booking discounts. Here is the link https://ticketease.co.uk/event/vauxhall-bedford-opel-association-vboa/2019/07/vauxhall-bedford-opel-national-rally-‘19

Looking good. You can never have enough protection on the underneath. As the last task before it gets turned back get wax into all the cavities, drill holes into those that don't already have them with plastic plugs to seal them again. If you are putting power steering in don't forget to reinforce that area

The first I knew was an email at 21.40 that I read half an hour ago. Sounds as if it could have some potential from an initial read. This is it. Good Evening, For the purpose of clarification, when the term “we” is used, it is to refer to the VBOA committee of the Chairman, Vice Chairman, Treasurer, Secretary and the Event organisation sub-committee. Please read this all the way to the end as there is quite a lot to digest. Voting on the Billing Options The voting and feedback from the two Billing options has been received and of those clubs who responded there is an even split between Option 1 and Option 2, with further feedback from some that neither is tenable resulting in a desire to not show at all. Outcome of the feedback/vote With the results in mind, and taking into account the feedback received from individuals both on social media and direct to this email address, we have deemed it vital to seek out an alternative venue that carries neutral allegiance. To some, this will be viewed as a non-democratic decision, but we feel that attending either Billing or Market Harborough would damage the VBOA and its associated clubs in such a way that recovery would be very difficult. The venue that we have visited, discussed with the management and decided upon is Sywell Aerodrome (http://sywellaerodrome.co.uk/, Hall Farm, Sywell, Northamptonshire, NN6 0BN). This venue has held several automotive events each year, with a prime example being the Sywell classic also known as props and pistons which would be the closest representation to the VBOA National Rally. Goal of the VBOA Show The prime goal for this is to take all the good from Billing and Market Harborough and improve on the not so good (toilets being the most obvious one). We also want to try and bring the general public/car fanatics in, so an element of rebranding will be carried out to step on from the term rally implying a motorsport event to a motor show. The identity of the VBOA National Rally shall not be lost, merely built upon to take it to a new level Venue/Show concept We are looking to hire the venue exclusively for our use for the 5th-7th July 2019, where we will use at least two of the hangers (one is a bar/band area and carpeted), and the other can be for the auto jumble/trade stands so as to protect from any inclement weather. We also intend to make use of the concrete pan for the arena/food vendors akin to previous years which seemed to achieve the festival vibe that has been mentioned. Furthermore we intend to make use of the taxi way to have a 0-60/drag activity, this could also be a part of the parade lap should the desire be there. The attached maps are a high level first pass at how the show could be laid out and given the space available, you would get the same stand sizes and setup (camping on stands) you have enjoyed in previous years. The only exception to this may be that if electric hook-ups are needed for things like caravans, then this would be in a single location with a limited number of pitches available. The space available for the show between the Arena and the far fence, to the North East, (or even the little roadway in from the entrance) is comparable to the area we had at Market Harborough. We do not have a layout for stands as yet but this will be high on the list of things to do and this will come out in time. Also attached is an image from the LAA show there which is focussed on aircraft, but it shows an aerial shot of just what is possible there. As this is an Aerodrome and not a purpose built camp/leisure facility, we will need to supply a myriad of things such as toilets/showers/PR/food vendors/entertainment/security and so on, if YOU or YOUR members can assist in the supply of this or anything else then please come forwards, this show will only be as good as we can all make it so the more involvement the merrier. Hotel We understand that many of you and your members have already booked rooms at the hotel at Billing. Billing is approx. 10 Minutes away from Sywell, and we would look to put on a bus service of some sort for the weekend if the demand is high enough. Sywell have a 59 Room hotel on site, they have fixed their prices at £79/Night with breakfast at £8.50/Person. As they only have 59 Rooms, we suggest you book sooner rather than later, also do this direct with them and NOT Booking.com (http://www.aviatorhotel.co.uk/contact.php or 01604 642111) Entry costs Now, the costs (some of these will be subject to change) Day entry for VBOA members (1 car + 4 people) will be no more than £10/day and working on a weekend entry pass too. Day Entry for General Public (1 car + 4 people) £15/Day Camping would be sold as a Friday-Monday (1 car + 4 people) at approx. £45 Additional car costs will be considered and information will be released but will be favourable. We are looking at options of early bird pricing and also giving 1 weekend camping pass per club as we used to have at Billing. This booking process would be using a dedicated booking agent that links directly to the VBOA. Support As has been mentioned, there is and will be quite a lot to do to make any show at any venue work, even if we were back at a purpose built site for this type of thing, so we need your help. Helping does not mean you or your members are stuck with a job/task for life, it means that you have helped to make the show as good as can be. I have seen a sign in my local rugby club that says “before you complain, have you volunteered to help?”, I think this is a very valid and wholesome approach to anything like this. There is of course much more to plan, prepare and do prior to the show and this is only the start of all the information that will come out, but it is everything we know at this present time. Kind Regards Stuart Lindborg Vice Chairman – On behalf of the VBOA Committee and Event Sub-Committee.

Strangely it looks as if they didn't actually communicate with VBOA directly which I would say is an unusual sales strategy. By putting it on Facebook instead it could be interpreted as trying to go round the VBOA Committee.

Yes, but it was never the plan to make any money. VBOA is not for that and any 'profit' made in a year was given to charity, mainly a children's hospice in Luton. The largest Billing cost was for plaques, which we never asked for. Off to bed now.

Probably about the same. You didn't answer my question. On the basis that you might be asking the wrong question, the revenue VBOA received either way was around £3500. Part of the original move to MH was that LMF were to match plus a little bit the Billing revenue. Fixed amount from MH, variable Billing.

I have the VBOA accounts for 2016. Brief analysis shows around £500 tops. Why?

Until the real cost, or at least a close estimate, become clearer all clubs are to a certain extent trying to make decisions in the dark, probably working on the worst case.. Once that happens all clubs will have a much better idea of the costs will be.

Thanks Paul, that was news to me. I doubt many of the VBOA reps are on their Facebook page. Chairman of VBOA's comment on that thread. Shaun Broadbent On behalf of the vboa I would like to say thanks to Steve and Mick for considering this option. There are a lot of rumours flying around and also quite a lot of slanderous remarks. We have a vote closing on the 4th and if the results of that vote are not a clear divide. Then we will be looking at other options. Shaun Broadbent Jon Baggaley billing was voted for. This news today has come from Lmf out of the blue. Pretty much in the same way that they found out the reps had voted for billing. all I have said is that if we have a hung vote with no majority we will explore other avenues

It would indeed Keir but as I said before, that wasn't an option.

That doesn't stop you voting. If Option 2 is agreed there are possibly ways that the Club can overcome your situation. We'll see what happens.

Heard nothing from VBOA. That option died at the last meeting.